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Hillary Frank on trusting yourself—and your child—in parenthood

Hillary Frank is a veteran podcaster and renowned journalist, and her podcast, called "The Longest Shortest Time" is one of the most recognized parenting podcasts out there. It started as a way for Hillary to cope with her loneliness and struggles in her early weeks of motherhood and has since grown into an immense collection of stories from parents in all sorts of circumstances. Since its debut in 2010, it has won numerous awards, and tons of critical acclaim, including being on the 50 Best Podcasts lists in both Time Magazine and The Atlantic.
In this episode, Hillary and Liz chat about Hillary's new book, "Weird Parenting Wins: Bathtub Dining, Family Screams, and Other Hacks from the Parenting Trenches," as well as everything else she's learned in her near-decade of listening to parents tell their stories.

Elise Loehnen is the Chief Content Officer at Goop and the well-known right-hand woman of Gwenyth Paltrow. Before coming to Goop, Elise had a high-powered career in magazines, working at Conde Nast Traveler and Lucky. Today, Elise serves as a frequent go-to spokesperson for Goop, co-hosts the Goop podcast, and is a mother to her two sons, Max and Sam.

In this episode, Liz chats with Elise about postpartum depletion and what our healthcare system can do to better serve women before, during and after pregnancy.

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