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When the founders of Birdsong Brooklyn met, it was love at first sight. Pregnant with their first babies 3 years back, Erica Livingston served as Laura Interlandi’s biggest postpartum supporter, then Laura returned the favor three months later. When they joined forces to provide postpartum support for a mutual friend, they realized that women were sorely lacking in the care they needed after birth….and that they made a great team addressing it together. And so Birdsong was born.

They’ve quickly made a name for themselves in the Brooklyn doula scene, filling a gap in the postpartum conversation. Their doula services that are equally esoteric and practical, from Blessingways to babyproofing and everything in between. And most importantly, these smart doulas understand that every journey is different. Which is particularly relevant right now, since both are experiencing their second pregnancies: Laura is due with twins any second(!) and Erica will welcome her second little one in August. We recently sat them down for a little conversation and Q&A -- about each other. Here’s what they had to say.

Tell us about your own birth plan.

Erica: I am planning my second home birth and am very excited about it. This pregnancy has been so different as my life is so much more active (re: chasing a toddler and running a business = super tired at sunset.) It's been so sweet and touching to watch my son grow into a big brother alongside my growing belly. And as a postpartum doula, I'm really having a wonderful time planning for the time after our baby gets here. I can't wait for the first 40 days after I give birth!


Laura: My twins are due on May 12th (but twins are almost always early!), I am having a girl and a boy and am delivering at NYU with an OBGYN practice. Aria was born at home with a midwife so this birth will be a new experience in a lot of ways! Something felt different about this pregnancy from early on and I ended up being guided to an OBGYN office that just happened to be one of the best in NYC for supporting vaginal twin delivery. I’m hoping and planning for labor to begin spontaneously, progress naturally and (in my dream scenario!) show up at the hospital ready to deliver! I have an amazing birth doula, Rebecca McKeever, and I'm bringing in a lot of elements from my homebirth experience like eating/drinking through labor, music, essential oils, pictures of my daughter, a meditation practice and even a portable birth altar. Afterward, I'm planning for skin to skin and to initiate tandem breastfeeding right away. I'm also encapsulating both placentas.

How would you describe your Birdsong partner as a mom?

Erica: Laura is an incredible mother. She is the perfect mix of wisdom, creativity, passion, patience and humor. I always say that I wish she was my Mama and I really mean it. She's the best!

Laura: Magical unicorn wise woman mama! Erica is present, compassionate, crafty, fun, and always thinking of how she can be growing and shifting to learn more. Whether it is in the way her home runs and functions or silly sweet games they can play, Erica is endlessly thoughtful and creative. She is a powerful protector of her son’s imagination and sensitivity and is always empowering him to be his authentic self.

What will your Birdsong partner be like during her birth?

Erica: Laura will be steady, strong and powerful. She'll be delivering at NYU but in her mind's eye she'll actually be on a shamanic journey to the center of the earth from an entry point in Lasqueti Island, Canada. She probably also be saying the most hysterically funny things anyone has ever heard. The texts she sent me in early labor during her last birth were priceless! I hope her birth doula writes down everything she says.

Laura: A total badass. Erica's first birth was even longer than mine and I think this time when she feels contractions start up she will just go about her day, nesting through early labor, playing with her son, and taking space to go inward until it comes time to bear down and bring her baby earthside. Knowing her she will have prepped little snack stations and playlists to listen to. When it is time to push, I visualize her standing or squatting and catching her own baby and then laughing really hard till she cries. I'm picturing it happening in her kitchen for some reason? Then She will laugh some more, and cry some more, opening up her already massive heart to the fullness of all the feelings. And then hopefully (after some sweet snuggles as a family) she'll text me. She's going to be amazing.

When we say newborn you say…

Erica: best thing you'll ever smell.

Laura: Snuggles. Twins. Heart expansion. Hard work. Foggy mind. Laundry. Support.

When we say cooking you say…

Erica: Bone broth.

Laura: Quinoa! My go-to base for most meals. Cooking used to be a joy, but since about week 20 of this pregnancy it has felt like a total chore.

When we say breast you say…

Erica: Mama milk! (Also, and I quote "When will it taste like ice cream again?")

Laura: Deet deets! My daughter's nickname for nursing.

When we say birth you say…

Erica: Threshold.

Laura: Transformational. Shamanic. Raw power. Gutsy. Epic. Unpredictable. The original dance.

The most important thing to get done before you go into labor is...

Erica: Preparing your postpartum plan including your rings of support and your village of people that will care for you and your family after the baby arrives. So many mamas, including myself in my first pregnancy, spend so much time planning for the labor and birth but give very little thought to what happens after.

Laura: I could write a list a mile long of things I'd like to complete, clean, work on, line up. But I know that the list will never end, that labor could start whenever and I'm really trying to release control and stay super relaxed. Things can always be ordered online, or tasks pushed aside til later. I'd like to go on a date with my husband though. And have one last family day, unplugged from devices, other people and baby prep tasks, and just enjoy the last moments of being a family of 3, showering our little girl (and each other!) with love and attention.

Best piece of advice for a mom-to-be?

Erica: You are not alone, Mama! Look around and open your eyes to all the support and love that surrounds you. And now cultivate the ability to ask for that love and support in a way that fills you and your family up. All the best Mamas are getting by with a little help from their friends.

Laura: Enjoy your pregnancy and definitely plan for the birth of your dreams (whatever that means to you!) but don't forget that there is a whole rest of your life as mama. When the baby (or babies!) emerges- you need support! Don't expect to feel 'normal'. There is a new normal taking shape. Don't judge or rush yourself. Take the time to rest and heal. Stay in bed and order food, or have someone cook for you and hire a postpartum doula! Tune out the noise, the over-saturation of parenting advice, and develop or nurture a practice that connects you back to your own intuition. And remember, there is NO right way! Everyone is making it up as they go along. I know I certainly am!

Want to see a Birdsong Blessingway in action? Check out their community Blessingway on June 12.

Photography by Laura Vladimirova for Well Rounded NY.

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If there's one thing you learn as a new mama, it's that routine is your friend. Routine keeps your world spinning, even when you're trucking along on less than four hours of sleep. Routine fends off tantrums by making sure bellies are always full and errands aren't run when everyone's patience is wearing thin. And routine means naps are taken when they're supposed to, helping everyone get through the day with needed breaks.

The only problem? Life doesn't always go perfectly with the routine. When my daughter was born, I realized quickly that, while her naps were the key to a successful (and nearly tear-free!) day, living my life according to her nap schedule wasn't always possible. There were groceries to fetch, dry cleaning to pick up, and―if I wanted to maintain any kind of social life―lunch dates with friends to enjoy.

Which is why the Ergobaby Metro Compact City Stroller was such a life-saver. While I loved that it was just 14 pounds (perfect for hoisting up the stairs to the subway or in the park) and folds down small enough to fit in an airplane overhead compartment (you know, when I'm brave enough to travel again!), the real genius of this pint-sized powerhouse is that it doesn't skimp on comfort.

Nearly every surface your baby touches is padded with plush cushions to provide side and lumbar support to everything from their sweet head to their tiny tush―it has 40% more padding than other compact strollers. When nap time rolls around, I could simply switch the seat to its reclined position with an adjustable leg rest to create an instant cozy nest for my little one.

There's even a large UV 50 sun canopy to throw a little shade on those sleepy eyes. And my baby wasn't the only one benefiting from the comfortable design― the Metro is the only stroller certified "back healthy" by the AGR of Germany, meaning mamas get a much-needed break too.

I also appreciate how the Metro fits comfortably into my life. The sleek profile fits through narrow store aisles as easily as it slides up to a table when I'm able to meet a pal for brunch. Plus, the spring suspension means the tires absorb any bumps along our way―helping baby stay asleep no matter where life takes us. When it's time to take my daughter out, it folds easily with one hand and has an ergonomic carry handle to travel anywhere we want to go.

Life will probably never be as predictable as I'd like, but at least with our Metro stroller, I know my child will be cradled with care no matter what crosses our path.

This article is sponsored by Ergobaby. Thank you for supporting the brands that support Motherly and mamas.


After quite a wait (he was born last week) Kim Kardashian and Kanye West have finally revealed their baby boy’s name and it isn’t what the internet was expecting.

While Kim had previously hinted at the name Robert, after her late father and her brother, the couple went with a name that makes sense given Kanye’s new Sunday Services.

Baby number four for the Kardashian-Wests is called Psalm West, his mom announced via Instagram.

Psalm is the fourth child for Kim and Kanye, who are already raising 5-year-old North, 3-year-old Saint and 1-year-old Chicago.

Welcome to the family Psalm!

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Back in the day, when I saw my mom sporting a fanny pack, I cringed. I was a tween, and my mom was utterly embarrassing with her nylon belt bag. Flash forward a couple of decades and as I juggle four kids at a playground while my tote keeps slipping off my shoulder, I find myself thinking, "Maybe, just maybe, my mom was onto something."

And I'm not the only one. That's right friends, fanny packs are BACK. Why? Well, for celebs and fashion-types, it's because everything that was once old must always be reincarnated.

But for us mamas, there is one simple resounding answer: The bag is incredibly convenient. It allows us to have our hands free—to, ya know, change a diaper or put a bandage on a knee—and it also forces us to pare down the litany of items we'll throw into our purses before we head out the door. Like, those ten extra snacks or a juice box or a coloring book — the items that result in your purse suddenly weighing 50 pounds.

Oh, and this just in: You can also sling a fanny pack around your body, now. We've got options!

Is it the ultimate mom bag? Listen, we're not going to say it is. But we're also not going to say it's not. Catch our drift? And if you see yourself in a mirror while sporting your new belt bag, we dare you not to start singing, "I'm too sexy for… my fanny pack."


Shop our favorite patterns and styles below, some of which start as low as 6 bucks.

Dagne Dover Ace Fanny Pack, $85.00

Dagne Dover Ace Fanny Pack

This just in: We all need more neoprene in our lives! We're loving the yellow lace design detail, and the fact that this one has a key clip and card holder inside, too.


Pam & Gela Leopard Print Belt Bag, $105.00

Pam & Gela Leopard Print Belt Bag

We're just going to say it: One can never have too much leopard in their closet. This one will definitely spice up your daily jeans and t-shirt outfit.


Herschel Supply Co. Fifteen Belt Bag, $30.00

Herschel Supply Co. Fifteen Belt Bag

Durable? Check. Fun colors? Check. Cute Herschel logo badge on the front? Check.


Lululemon Everywhere Belt Bag 1L, $38.00

Lululemon Everywhere Belt Bag 1L

Yes, you need a sporty fanny pack, too. This one is perfect when you're heading to Saturday morning yoga.


Sun Squad Cooler Fanny Pack, $6.00

Sun Squad Fanny Pack Cooler Grapefruit

A insulated fanny pack that keeps snacks cool? Amen!


State Crosby Fanny Pack, $42.00

State Crosby Fanny Pack

Proof that fanny packs can be uber-hip (and sleek!) at the same time.


No Boundaries Fanny Pack, $5.97

No Boundaries Fanny Pack

This sweet-pea pattern screams, "Spring!" and at this price, we might buy two.


Lola Los Angeles Moonbeam Belt Bag, $28.00

Lola Los Angeles Moonbeam

We're loving the nylon fabric and cool Lola badge on this one, which also comes in black, red and maroon.


Tee Shirt and Jeans Janie Fanny Pack, $11.99

Tee Shirt and Jeans Janie Fanny Pack

This one had us at pompoms. Oh, and that price. Sold!


MZ Wallace Metro Belt Bag, $145.00

MZ Wallace Metro Belt Bag

Moms everywhere love MZ Wallace for their crazy parenting-friendly totes, and turns out they make an equally utilitarian belt bag in a variety of fun hues and patterns.


Gucci Ophidia Small Suede Belt Bag, $1,390.00

What's that? You only wear designer bags? Fear not, they've adapted to the fanny pack trend (except they refer to the style as a "belt bag,") and this Gucci stunner will transition seamlessly from the park to date night.


Clare V. Perforated Leather Fanny Pack, $299.00

Clare V. Perforated Leather Fanny Pack

The epitome of cool-girl bag brands, Clare V. has brought its chic aesthetic to the fanny pack category, and we couldn't be happier about that. We adore the perforated leather of this bag, as well as the high-contrast zipper.


Jansport Fifth Avenue Fanny Pack, $17.00

Jansport Fifth Avenue Fanny Pack

If we're going to go the fanny pack route, we might as well go the whole way, right? Right. And nothing screams "90s!" like a Jansport bag. The good news is they haven't raised their prices too much in the past two decades.


Nike Benassi Just Do It Fanny Pack Slide Sandal, $50.00

Nike Benassi Just Do It Fanny Pack Slide Sandal

Okay, okay, this isn't a true fanny pack per se. It's better! It's actually two amazing '90s trends packed into one perfect product. We give you... the fanny pack slide!


Motherly is your daily #momlife manual; we are here to help you easily find the best, most beautiful products for your life that actually work. We share what we love—and we may receive a commission if you choose to buy. You've got this.

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Mornings can be so rough making sure everyone has what they need for the day and managing to get out the door on time. A recent survey by Indeed found that 60% of new moms say managing a morning routine is a significant challenge, and another new survey reveals just why that is.

The survey, by snack brand Nutri-Grain, suggests that all the various tasks and child herding parents take on when getting the family out the door in the morning adds up to basically an extra workday every week!

Many parents will tell you that it can take a couple of hours to get out of the house each morning person, and as the survey found, most of us need to remind the kids "at least twice in the morning to get dressed, brush their teeth, or put on their shoes."

According to Nutri-Grain, by the end of the school year, the average parent will have asked their children to hurry up almost 540 times across the weekday mornings.

We totally get it. It's hard to wait on little ones when we have a very grown-up schedule to get on with, but maybe the world needs to realize that kids just aren't made to be fast.


As Rachel Macy Stafford, the author of Hands Free Mama, Hands Free Life, writes, having a child who wants to enjoy and marvel at the world while mama is trying to rush through it is hard.

"Whenever my child caused me to deviate from my master schedule, I thought to myself, 'We don't have time for this.' Consequently, the two words I most commonly spoke to my little lover of life were: 'Hurry up.'" she explains.

We're always telling our kids to hurry up, but maybe, maybe, we should be telling ourselves—and society—to slow down.

That's what Stafford did. She took "hurry up" out of her vocabulary and in doing so made that extra workday worth of time into quality time with her daughter, instead of crunch time. She worked on her patience, and let her daughter marvel at the world or slow down when she had to.

"To help us both, I began giving her a little more time to prepare if we had to go somewhere. And sometimes, even then, we were still late. Those were the times I assured myself that I will be late only for a few years, if that, while she is young."

It's great advice, but unless we mamas can get the wider world on board, it's hard to put into practice. When the school bus comes at 7:30 am and you've gotta be at the office at 8 am, when the emails start coming before you're out of bed or your pay gets docked if you punch in five minutes late, it is hard to slow down.

So to those who are making the schedules the rest of us have to live by, to the employers and the school boards and the wider culture, we ask: Can we slow down?

Indeed's survey suggests that the majority of moms would benefit from a more flexible start time at work and the CDC suggests that starting school later would help students.

Mornings are tough for parents, but they don't have to be as hard as they are.

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If you've ever shopped at Vineyard Vines you know two things. One, it's simply adorable. Like, the stuff that Nantucket dreams are made of. Stripes, checks, plaids and pinstripes in soft pastel hues for the entire family. Even the dog.

And second, you know that in order to achieve such a crisp, cool East Coast vibe that will look oh-so-perfect in your professionally-shot family photo you'll have to pay. Nope, that wee whale logo is not cheap, folks. How much are we talking? In the range of $50 for a boys button-down shirt or $70 for a girls madras dress (to be fair, it does have flutter sleeves and holy cannoli it might just be worth the price tag!). The good news is that we can verify the quality is top notch—my two sons regularly receive my nephews' hand me downs and even after being worn by four boys, they're still in top-notch condition.

Needless to say, for those of us with a penchant for prep on a tighter clothing budget, the news of Target's Vineyard Vines collaboration was music to our ears. We've actually tried the product and we're drooling... over the styles, the quality and the prices! Comprised of more than 300 pieces, the collection is priced from $2 to $120, with most of it costing below $35.


Let's say it together, friends: Yassss!

Check out our favorite pieces for the whole family below.

Vineyard Vines for Target Women's Sleeveless Ruffle Tie Waisted Midi V-Neck Dress

Price: $35


Vineyard Vines for Target Baby Ruffle School of Whales Sleeveless Bodysuit

Vineyard Vines for Target Baby Ruffle School of Whales Sleeveless Bodysuit

Price: $12


Vineyard Vines for Target  Boys' Short Sleeve Polo Shirt

Vineyard Vines for Target  Boys' Short Sleeve Polo Shirt

Price: $16


Vineyard Vines for Target Men's Striped Swim Trunks

Vineyard Vines for Target Men's Striped Swim Trunks

Price: $25


Vineyard Vines for Target Girls' Striped Scoop Neck Romper

Vineyard Vines for Target Girls' Striped Scoop Neck Romper

Price: $20


Vineyard Vines for Target Toddler Boys' 1/4 Zip Pullover Sweatshirt

Vineyard Vines for Target Toddler Boys' 1/4 Zip Pullover Sweatshirt

Price: $16


Vineyard Vines for Target Women's Blue One-Piece Swimsuit

Vineyard Vines for Target Women's Blue One-Piece Swimsuit



Vineyard Vines for Target Women's Women's Gingham Long Sleeve Shirtdress

Vineyard Vines for Target Women's Women's Gingham Long Sleeve Shirtdress

Price: $35


Vineyard Vines for Target Throw Blankets & Pillows

Vineyard Vines for Target Throw Blankets & Pillows

Price: $25-$30


Vineyard Vines for Target Pet Accessories

Vineyard Vines for Target Pet Accessories

Price: $6-$11


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