Anne-Marie Slaughter on the value of caregiving, co-parenting and why we need to do less
In 2009 Anne-Marie Slaughter landed what she has called her dream job—director of policy planning at the U.S. Department of State. But during that time, her two sons were experiencing a rough period of adolescence, and she found herself wanting to be home in New Jersey with them. So she left her dream job in government after just two years, and then wrote a powerful article for The Atlantic called "Why Women Still Can't Have It All." That article went on to become one of the most read articles in the history of the magazine and helped to reignite the conversation around gender equality. Today, Anne-Marie is still one of the most prominent political scientists out there, and in 2015 she published a widely-read book based on the response to her Atlantic article, titled, "Unfinished Business: Women, men, work and family." In addition to being President and CEO of New America, she is also the mother of two sons. In this episode, Liz and Anne-Marie talk about the value of caregiving, the reasons why it has been so undervalued in our society, and what we can do to start changing these norms and push towards equality.
Melissa Hartwig Urban is the co-founder and CEO of the Whole30—an intensive 30-day dietary program designed to heal your digestive tract and end unhealthy cravings through whole, unprocessed foods. Today, the Whole30 has over 2 million followers across social media platforms and has impacted the lives of people around the world.
In addition to being a busy CEO, Melissa is also a proud mom to her 5-year-old son. And last year, Melissa launched Whole Mamas, a community-inspired online roadmap to help women navigate the entire journey of motherhood, from a Whole30 perspective.
In this episode, Liz and Melissa chat about becoming a single mom early into motherhood, expanding what we think about "self-care," and rising kids with a healthy attitude towards food.