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Anne-Marie Slaughter on the value of caregiving, co-parenting and why we need to do less

In 2009 Anne-Marie Slaughter landed what she has called her dream job—director of policy planning at the U.S. Department of State. But during that time, her two sons were experiencing a rough period of adolescence, and she found herself wanting to be home in New Jersey with them. So she left her dream job in government after just two years, and then wrote a powerful article for The Atlantic called "Why Women Still Can't Have It All." That article went on to become one of the most read articles in the history of the magazine and helped to reignite the conversation around gender equality.
Today, Anne-Marie is still one of the most prominent political scientists out there, and in 2015 she published a widely-read book based on the response to her Atlantic article, titled, "Unfinished Business: Women, men, work and family." In addition to being President and CEO of New America, she is also the mother of two sons.
In this episode, Liz and Anne-Marie talk about the value of caregiving, the reasons why it has been so undervalued in our society, and what we can do to start changing these norms and push towards equality.

Tiffany Dufu frequently states that her life's work is advancing women and girls, and her resume is certainly good proof of that. She has worked to increase women's representation in government by serving as president of The White House Project, was a founding member of Sheryl Sandberg's Lean In initiative, and most recently founded The Cru—a peer coaching service for women looking to jumpstart their careers.

In 2017, Tiffany wrote "Drop the Ball: Achieving More by Doing Less" which is an inspiring part-memoir, part-manual about how after she became a mother, she learned to let go of outside expectations in order to achieve what was most important to her. The book has received high praise from numerous outlets including The New York Times Book Review, as well as from prominent feminists like Anne-Marie Slaughter and Gloria Steinem.

In this episode, Liz and Tiffany talk about how Tiffany learned to "drop the ball" and define for herself what makes her a good mother, daughter, wife, and career woman.

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