In this episode, Liz speaks with Reshma Saujani, the founder of two non-profits, Girls Who Code, which is one of the largest nonprofits in the country with the mission to close the gender gap in technology, and the Marshall Plan for Moms, a new initiative Reshma created dedicated to transforming workplaces and the government to better support mothers and families. Reshma is also the author of three books – and her most recent is Pay Up: The Future of Women and Work and Why It’s Different Than You Think.

In this conversation, Liz talks to Reshma about her own personal evolution during the pandemic, why she wants to create a workplace that’s built for women, not just men, and her framework for change.