The very real, very raw struggle of getting it together in the morning when you’re a mama of littles is no different for celebrities as it is for us. Mama of two, Meghan Markle opened up about her busy morning routine in the latest episode of her podcast, “Archetypes.”

The Duchess of Sussex, 41, and Prince Harry, 38, are parents to son, Archie, 3, and daughter Lilibet, 1.

“I’m sure it’ll only get more chaotic as they get older,” she says, “But for me, it’s, you know, both monitors on for the kids to hear them, always up with Lili, get her downstairs, then a half hour later, Archie’s up. I start doing his lunchbox right before he’s up while I have her, getting her a little nibble. My husband’s helping me get him downstairs.”

Markle sat down with guest, Pamela Adlon and spoke about the balancing act of being a wife and a mother. The episode, which is titled, “Good Wife/Bad Wife, Good Mom/Bad Mom,” explores the roles and judgments of all of these titles.

The Duchess continues, “I make breakfast for all three of them. It’s very important to me. I love doing it. To me, it just feels like the greatest way to start the morning.”

She adds that she feeds all three dogs and gets little Archie out the door for school but with everything going on all together, “it feels like a whirlwind.”

There truly is no other way to state it but to acknowledge that the morning rush is a rush like no other. Getting one child up (if they’re not already up at the crack of dawn), making breakfast, helping them dress and making sure they’ve got their cute little backpack and whatever else they need to get out of the door is only half of it. The other part is also trying to juggle yourself, because, yes, busy moms have got to eat too, and making sure to feed any family pets while also squeezing in whatever you need for the day ahead.

“Lily is… just started walking. She’s a year and a couple of months old and Archie’s just over three years old. So yeah they are… Oh I’m in the thick of it. Toddling.”

As any mother can attest to, once your little one starts walking it’s a whole different game. Their little feet can now take them wherever their curious little minds want to wander! The joy is just as great as the anxiety.

Pamela Adlon, who is a writer, producer and actress, is also a mother of three but she shares on the episode that much of her motherhood was spent being a single mom. She chimes in by saying something I’m sure most (if not all moms) feel about the morning, “Like, I’d want to knock on other moms’ doors when they were making breakfast before school. Like, how, how is it in your home? Like, is it crazy like it is in my home, like that morning rush.”

The Duchess, who admits that she can’t imagine doing all of these things without a partner, says that Prince Harry is a wonderful help, “Oh my husband, oh he’s, he’s great. How someone does this without a partner to help them through. It is so much work to be a mom when you are just trying to be a conscious parent to raise good, kind human beings…”

The Duchess of Sussex and Prince Harry produced their “Archetypes” podcast under the umbrella of their production company, Archewell Audio. This episode and this conversation on motherhood and juggling morning routines is just another example of how Meghan Markle is unveiling little tidbits of their life that show that the struggle of parenthood is universal.